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I don't dispute it's abused, but there are so many other things that are far more gamey in my opinion. Top of the list is delaying your turn to blind an opponent, which has happened to me a couple of times in 105 already. I agree with Dag that the legacy of a PBM game that hasn't been updated is a big cause of gamey behavior. With today's technology, it would be easy to email any battle reports to somebody involved when they happen.

I'm of the opinion that if you war on one TA, you war on them all, so I think you should DW the entire group. That prevents the CL from mattering.

Is Sun Tzu France? I was thinking he was Austria.

Is Austria trying to be Switzerland reborn? Spend the game neutral?

I'll weigh in. Victory! is both a wargame and a diplomacy game. Not being privy to the discussions between the two parties, I can't say what the actual truth is here. What I will say, is virtually everybody in this game has both been a TA of mine and an enemy of mine at some point. Some people believe a good backstab is a winning strategy. Some believe that they must keep a deal even if it costs them the game. Both are viable options in a game of this sort, and ultimately it's up to the individual to make the deals he thinks will work out for him.

So what happened with Persia?

Dag, Greece is still white. Needs to join Yugoslavia, Rumania and CR.

Greece should be with Yugoslavia et al (aqua?) and is at war with the CE alliance (lt. blue?) I think a major city has changed hands between pink and green.

Looks like he's looking to get out of Denmark, thinks Germany will be nicer.

That's funny, I'm looking forward to visiting!

He is Austria

Hmm. I can't think of anything dishonest myself or our group did with you in 101. Not sure to whom this is directed.

Denmark should be dark green

So Fremen, I noticed you haven't said what country you're playing. Never figured you for a coward. Come clean

Didn't I read in the rules somewhere that DW Yugoslavia was required for all players?

Lukas, did you get my email?

Well, second turns are back, and some interesting alliances out there!

Ken was one of my favorites. I'll never forget working with him clear back in game 57. A truly good dude, who'll be missed.

Hmm, sounds fun, will the Austrians give me access?

Germany is here!

I figured it would fill when 101 ended. Let's Roll!

In the books, a very fun game. Thanks to the western allies for fighting to the end, and a big shout out to Tunisia and Algeria, who though crushed early, and clearly having no possibility of victory, fought on. I play Victory! for the fun fights with competent players, and this one will rank with my favorites!

Sorry, wrong board.

Guess your Carriers didn't end so well, eh?

Well, here's the stats over Bilbao. Canada lost 452 combined P-47N's and P-51B's and didn't get through to the target Ireland lost 390 P-38J's and did 1.29 divisions damage to air 39 and Mtn 41 divisions Ireland lost 127 A-26B's and 297 P-51H's and didn't get through to the target In all these combats, Libya lost 163 fighters. I'd call that a Slaughter. As for reducing significantly, I think a better example is the 6 full strength mech 44 divisions of the USA in xLisbon. Airstrikes reduced them to 0. We obviously have a different take on things here. And it has been a fun game. Would of been a great time to play it out, but you guys alone couldn't fight us without the eastern bloc chipping in. I appreciate you putting out the effort thought! To my mind, the bane of Victory! is people who have a couple of things go wrong and then just drop because it's going to be hard. I hate fighting computers, and the best thing in this game is I haven't fought one yet.