Tordenskiold

I still do not understand the agreement between the UK group and the Spain group. Looks like the agreement was, that the Spain group could take France, Lowlands, Germany and Denmark, while the UK group could take Ireland and get a promise, that the Spain group would not sail across the Atlantic to attack US/Canada/Iceland (with German Tech). Who got the best deal?

Turn 57 now and still no action in here. But then again, why should there be? This outcome of this game has been known for at least the last 20 turns. Our alliance do not have the power to fight the Spain/Portugal alliance and the Rumanian alliance, which both are bigger than us, and we will surely keep losing cities/provinces to the end of the game. The UK alliance is mostly sailing around and doing air attacks, so they are not really a problem for us. The Rumanian alliance seems to be satisfied with a second place in this game. The UK alliance seems to be satisfied with surviving and to capture Ireland as their only gain in 72 turns (they were kicked out of Norway many turns ago). Unless the Rumanian alliance and the UK alliance are controlled by some of the same people as the Spain/Portugal alliance (the privacy option makes me think this is a possibility), then I must admire the diplomatic skills of the Spain/Portugal alliance. They have convinced the Rumanian alliance and the UK alliance to support them to the end. I have nothing against alliances working together, but when it is for the hole game and some alliances do not even try to win, I do not think it is good for Victory. Then it might as well be allowed to be up to 39 players in a TA alliance. They can then fight the last player together to secure the win. Well everyone can play as they want to, but I do not understand it, when people do not play to win. Tordenskiold Leader of Sweden

Looks like France is moving to Spain. Taking cities in Spain and giving up his own in France. Interesting strategy!

Not much action in here, but the game has reached turn 37 and I would like to give a status seen from our alliance (Poland, Baltic, Finland, Norway and Sweden). Our alliance will not have a chance of winning this game. It seems that 3 alliances made a deal from the start of the game, maybe even before it started, that they would not attack each other. We had an idea about that early, but could not be sure. Now we know and the right answer to this would be for our alliance to drop out of the game and let these 3 alliances play for another 36 turns without enemies. Not sure how much fun that would be. We still find the game interesting, so we have chosen to play on for now, but at some point the 3 alliances might have to play the rest of the game without enemies. Rumania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Hungary have been at war with Poland almost from the start of the game and have already taken up to 5 cities in Poland after 36 turns. US, Canada, GB and Iceland attacked Norway with a surprise attack around 10 turns ago and did some damage, but they were not able to follow up on the attack, so they have gained basically nothing. Well that is not entirely correct. They have taken Ireland during the first 36 turns. Now Spain, Portugal, Algeria and maybe Morocco have joined the fun. That will probably help the 2 other alliances. 12 against 5 should give them an advantage. Let us see how things develop from here. Tordenskiold Leader of Sweden

Italy here. I would like to talk to France, Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia and Greece.

I have a lot of my old PBM sheets from different games, but I do not have my old Victory stuff anymore.

Yes, I actually think it was PBM Express, I played with all those years ago. It must have been around 1990. I cannot remember the name Wim.

I was sure it was RTG all those years ago, but after your message, I am really not sure. It might have been PBM-Express. It must have been around 1990 - 1991, I think, but I do not have any of my materials from that time.

Thank you for the information. Will be very interesting to see, if Norway and Finland will work together. I played the game more than 25 years ago, but I have decided to play again. Good luck!

Yes, I am from Denmark.

Hello everyone, Sweden is now ready to play. I would like to get in contact with Norway, Finland and Denmark. Please mail me at tino@4930.dk. Tordenskiold